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Yesterday, 10:00 PMSadly unless it's happening to you the situation isn't one you can understand or relate to. Because this was a business interaction it wasn't simply a moderator or two exchanging a few messages with people - it was a large company setting others up to fail while pulling at the strings of integrity.
Perhaps instead of simply offering others a place to go one might indulge potential members with a reason as to why one community might be a better home than another. For instance the Core has a very active tech section offering a wide variety of topics from both support to builds to general talk about pieces / parts in general. Not too mention the Game Table drew thousands of posts each and every month.
As opposed to being just another site, long time users and staff such as myself have to consider why we might select a certain site over it's competitors.
Yesterday, 04:06 PMHow much would a new site cost exactly?
It's not so much the monetary costs but the time and effort involved. The majority of the sites out there do nothing but recycle the same RSS'd content that others do - the biggest loss to the Core is the history and culture that comes along with it. Some love it, some hate it but we still offered a uniqueness that at times others simply couldn't rival.
There's also the issue of too many chiefs and not enough Indians. Pardon the expression if it offends someone. The general thought about having a site sponsor such as Curse is that we'd have the support and resources available to us when the time came. Being stuck in limbo at the moment with a yet to be re-released game puts people in a tough spot. With everyone and their brother (or sister) talking about setting something up and offering support it's worth reminding everyone that no single person ran and operated the Core. If a few sites are created from it's ashes it creates a problem that nobody wants. Diversity is great - competition among peers for the same information isn't.
There's very little unique information being released and when it is the majority of people just want that stuff in an easy to read format. That along with the incredible amount of software, hardware and technical support offered by users of our site over the years is simply not easily reproduced. A fancy site and workable forums only do so much until launch. After that it will also take an incredible amount of work and giving back from the playerbase - something that seems to be lost after looking over these threads as of late.
As I've stressed in other posts and has been reinforced by others; The multitude of new accounts and advertising for other sites is a pretty petty thing atm. We've always held the rule in place that accounts being made to advertise we're not looked at in high regard. Simply because this site is closing doesn't mean the other site admins hunting additional signups need to be unleashed. You wouldn't want someone coming to your site offering members an alternative no matter how much you deny it.
Furthermore members with accounts on this site who are using it as a platform to promote their own site and agenda while speaking of community really do separate themselves from the rest of the pack. Aside from a few social media pushes here and there we've always remained neutral when it came to cross site promotion.
Add it to a sig or a profile and let the measure of respect work it's course.
I missed Malrend's reply and for that I'm sorry.
I personally have yet to hear about anything concrete being in the works. I myself have no intention of putting in the time and money needed to start from the ground but will continue to work the fan page as long as I retain control.
I'm more than happy to help out if a serious endeavor is undertaken - one that's supported by it's owner/founder and offers a level of maturity and moderation that's expected.
If someone on staff is looking into options feel free to let me know. I'll assist where I can and direct to others where I cannot.
17 May 2013 - 10:23 PMDrama aside I'll still continue to post from the social media pages until they attempt to take those away. Curse hasn't made any public attempt that I'm aware of to wrestle it away from me and it's still a healthy number growing to around 4,000. While a FB account isn't required to see the updates it's always nice for people to engage in the topics being discussed.
Please keep in mind though that the continued and repeated apologetic and sympathetic tones many are taking on behalf of the site are little more than pouring salt on a wound for those current and former staffers. The random articles popping up about the sites downfall are a bit on the dramatic side, especially given that outside of Suiri and myself I'm not sure anyone else here has had direct contact about issues stemming from Curse or the Core and would even be aware of what has or might have lead to this decision.
While it's always nice to see emotional support - all of this is pretty much less than 72 hours old and yet the cries of a merger or movement are being drowned out by the plethora of smaller sites seeking to swell their numbers while talking about some form of unity. If people are looking for "the next big thing" from those who have worked on the Core they'll simply have to wait until someone steps forward publicly and announces something. Until then I hope people are able to find a solid place for which to spend their time going forward. If the Core has proven anything it's that you don't need an insane amount of active members to keep things alive and interesting. Sure people enjoy reminding us of the days when thousands of new posts were created daily but for a game that's gone through the cycle it has I think we did a fine job. With a budget of $0 and a 100% volunteer staff we put up one heck of a fight.
There is really no possible way to get and move the staff and member base that have made up the Core over to "a new home" in this amount of time in a manner in which many of us believe it deserves.
16 May 2013 - 08:16 PMThe announcement came out with a sudden bang. No one would've expected that. Good luck and I'll be more than willing to toss in donations for the new site.
p.s. ridiculous that a single "kthxbai" post deciding the site closure without even notifying the staff >_>
Holy Crap it's Forseti...
16 May 2013 - 12:42 PM
Today I am the bearer of sad news. Ffxivcore will be closing in the very near future. Due to outward pressures and inherent competition with other community sites, we are no longer able to support this great community.
Today Curse get's the last lulz. The Core will be shutting it's doors at some cryptic yet to be announced time in the future. Due to lack of attention on our part and overall poor support we've offered the staff we've no other option but to release you all into the wild. We are no longer ( publicly ) supporting this site as to continue our trend over the last few years.
Thank you to our passionate community members, all of you that read and enjoyed our content on a consistent basis, or any readers that popped in to check things out once in a while. Thank you to our staff, who worked remarkably to provide our community with enjoyable news and articles.
We'd like to thank you - our passionate and loyal ad revenue generators, many of which have poured insane amounts of time into the site over the years, for continually believing us when we told you we'd fix what was broken and continue to support that which we never intended to. Thanks to the staff for being our punching bags when we chose to stick to the shadows while moving our collective business pieces about. We truly do appreciate the amount of work you've done on our behalf so that we could focus our attention elsewhere like Aion and Terraria
To those of you that still hunger for further FFXIV content, please make sure to stop by our wiki at FFXIV Wiki.
For those looking to satisfy the FFXIV content hunger that burns inside you, please consider checking out google.com as our own wiki was pretty much a farce.
Once again I thank all of you for being a part of this journey.
Again, thanks for being a part of the $_train.
This post has been promoted to an article. The first by a Curse staff member in more than a year.
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