Jackel, on 17 January 2013 - 06:04 PM, said:
The settings have already been put in place, sorry.
To clear up some concerns though:
There is a reputation system in place. It's just as vulnerable to abuse as single word count posting if not more so. Tracking spam posts isn't an issue. Users can report each post they think might be in violation of the rules. Backtracking and questioning valid rep ups as opposed to someone just spamming it is slightly more complicated.
This could be mitigated by only allowing people with a certain reputation/post count to rank up or down. If it requires nothing, Someone could make as many forum accounts as they want to rep someone up or down.
Those who meet a certain level of activity on the site will have a few more communication tools at their disposal. It would hardly be fair to new and active users we potentially stand to gain as the game nears closer to each phase and ultimately a release state.
People like me will take a VERY long time to get access to these 'additional communication tools' as I refuse to make posts that are anything other informative (in my opinion at least). On the other hand, if I go to every post on these forums and post a short sentence about how I agree or disagree with whatever the OP had stated, I am suddenly given more privileges even though I am just bloating the forums with useless comments (but not useless enough to get my post removed, thus getting rewarded for my spam).
Wiki and Guide/Tutorial contributions sound nice but the game isn't live right now and won't be without an NDA for some time. Aside from not even being able to check the validity of such things it would be very difficult to even get something rolling without access to any of the information needed to author such submissions.
This is more of a future feature kind of suggestion. Sites like gamefaqs seem to be able to filter out useless FAQs just fine. Just get some trusted forum members to have the right to approve/refuse submissions.
At the present time the Shoutbox is the only additional feature that's active. The rest will depend on if/when we see the redesign and upgrades we're looking at getting. Managing a point system is a great way to balance things out but currently there is no "Fair" way to handle such a task save for someone on the staff rating everything a user might contribute towards said point system.
As I said, I think rating could easily be extended to members who have already proven themselves (such as by having a high rating themselves).
Again, I'm sorry that the way we have things wasn't rolled out in a way you'd have liked it to be. The shoutbox was a feature originally intended for all users but had been shutdown for staff only. If it proves to be an issue we'll address it. If the situation calls for it to be open to all or none then we'll explore those options.
I am not angry or anything and I understand you are limited to the tools you have available to you (and are at the mercy of Curse to some degree as well as to what you want implemented). Quite simply, the biggest problem I have is that quantity is certainly NOT of greater value than quality. In fact, for many people I see posting on countless forums, quantity often leads to a decrease in quality, and FFXIVCore is rewarding people for it (some mass posters do in fact post many quality comments though).
I am not about to blanket the forums with as many useless posts as I can to get access to a better title, more epeen trough a high post count number, or access to the shoutbox, but I guarantee you that FFXIV core is encouraging people who would otherwise not post to make useless comments to increase their privileges. This DOES take something away from me, it encourages a decrease in the quality of the forums.
This post has been edited by vellauno: 17 January 2013 - 06:35 PM