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Chasing the Carrot: Rewards in FFXIV

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Though the game is still in its beta testing phase, hundreds and thousands of potential players are already salivating at the thoughts of the many possible rewards and treasures hidden deep within FFXIV's core. I'd like to discuss a few ways that players might come across these rewards, in an effort to make the gameplay both challenging and, well, rewarding.

In order for the experience to be both enjoyable and fair, a balance must be struck. Items can't be too common or easily obtainable, otherwise, every player will be able to achieve the same level of accomplishment eventually. At the same time, most people don't enjoy an experience in which only a very small elite can obtain the best items, while everyone else is left behind. How can SE aim to meet this problem?

To begin, let's recap a bit on the multiplicity of challenges facing adventurers in FFXI. A great deal of the end game experience was dominated by superior mobs who not only showed rare spawning times, but also low drop rates. These two factors meant that even when players finally came across a beast, and were hopefully able to take it down, the chance of getting an item was not guaranteed.

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This kind of system accounts for three factors, then, that can easily be modified to create a different experience. Monsters that only pop once a month, are extremely difficult to take down, and only have a 1% or less drop rate are sure to spark frustration and perhaps even warrant neglect from a chunk of the player base. Some might say, "well those enemies should drop some of the rarest pieces in the game, then." Maybe so, but is this really fair? This sort of situation puts players in heated conflicts, as they attempt to outdo one another, and resort to vicious tactics. How many people can recall hearing about the use of bots and other illegal programs in FFXI, all for what? Is this really a fair method to reward players with the most advanced gear? I think not.

To be fair, this was not the only way to obtain great pieces of gear in FFXI, however. Some were rewards from quests that could be accomplished by anyone willing to attempt them. Others were found through "BCNM" fights, and similar arenas, where players enter an instanced area to do combat in a timed battlefield. While this was enjoyable, it was often difficult to save up enough "seals" to enter the fight, so players couldn't do these as often. In my opinion, this was a wise choice, as it set limits on players, while still avoiding unintentional abuse between competing groups. In addition, most of these seals were earned through simply leveling or fighting enemies.

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While there are other systems in place in FFXI, I'd like to turn for a moment to PSO. Though some may not realize it, PSO had an "endgame"-like experience, although it wasn't necessarily at the end of the game, level-wise. As players started their adventures, they would progress through many dungeons and areas, in a typical RPG fashion. You'd work to level up, and eventually unlock access to harder difficulties, with more challenging enemies, but also better rewards. This pattern repeated itself as players moved from "Normal" to "Hard" to "Very Hard" and finally, to the pinnacle, "Ultimate" mode.

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Within this so-called ultimate mode, players would encounter never before-seen enemies, with deadly maneuvers. Although the other difficulties provided chances for discovering rare items, these items were often useful for only periods of a character's career. Players could theoretically enter Ultimate mode upon achieving level 80, but this stepping stone was simply the beginning of the adventure. Another 120 levels awaited those who were up for the challenge, and as the grind grew more steep, players had to motivate themselves through other means beyond simply attaining new powers through leveling.

This system, in some ways, reminds me of the fishing or crafting experience of FFXI. Though players could easily climb upwards in levels quickly in their early careers, the grind became so steep that it was often better to consider the "profit" or challenge, rather than worrying about skill ups. In the same way, this situation in PSO presented an opportunity for players to start concerning themselves with obtaining the rarest items in the game, with leveling up being an added bonus. PSO featured NM-like rare enemies, which featured some of the better items in the game. Still, players could find equally, and sometimes even better items on simple enemies, though the drop rates were usually much lower.

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I hope to see both of these setups established in some way in FFXIV. The chance to find potentially rare and rewarding items on "normal" foes would be awesome, and take away from the feeling of a huge grind to the top. While free-roaming rare enemies and huge beasts are all well and exciting, I can't help but wish that a lot of these monsters are met during guildleve challenges. This would allow for instanced battles in which the monsters could become more difficult, increasing the risk of not obtaining an item, but not so hard to come across that many players will never have a shot at obtaining the items.

Another possibility is for higher difficulty guildleves to present opportunities for rare enemy appearances. If you're doing a 1 star guildleve by yourself in which you're assigned the task of killing three cactuars, you'll likely complete the task and receive a standard reward. However, if you amp up the difficulty to the highest 5 stars, while you might require assistance in finishing the guildleve, perhaps an optional task will appear in which a rare, red cactuar mob appears. Only those involved with the guildleve would be able to take on the beast, although it wouldn't be required. This monster might drop a rare material or item, to serve as an incentive for both partying and taking on the challenge.

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Finally, if players are able to trade-in completed guildleves, it would be quite inspiring to have a chance to receive a rare guildleve task. For example, let's say you successfully complete three 5-star guildleves, and trade them in. Upon doing so, you might be offered a rare guildleve assignment, which may or may not be repeatable immediately. This would be a pleasant surprise for players who have been working hard to level up, but haven't come across any rare enemies or items.

How do you foresee rewards being presented in FFXIV? Do you prefer a guildleve-centric system, or do you think it's only appropriate for heated competition over rare enemy spawns throughout the world?

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GodhandX 

20 July 2010 - 11:30 AM
I always thought NM's were cool, but low drop rates are never fun. A solution could be to have the monsters drop loot at a much greater rate, or to have an item that summons the monster then breaks (to be gained after doing a series of quests maybe). This way more people get access to these giant enemies, and it becomes less of a "let's camp this spawn" and more of a "Why don't we go kill the giant sheep? He's fun to fight".
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Pawns_ 

20 July 2010 - 09:03 PM
1. I would like to see items become functional again.
One of the frustrating things about gear was the lack of autonomy it provided.
Equipment became utterly egotistical in XI~

2. I didn't like that equipment had become a prerequisite for participation.
It created a very exclusionary cycle where the people without couldn't ever
get ahead by virtue of the games natural systems.

3. Crafting in XI and most games is a failure because it is either A: not directly
useful to the player, or B: requires to much of a segregated time investment.

As to he question of rewards in the form of items. I would personally rather
ask the question: why is equipment the only way to distinguish myself in game?

It is my contention that this question must be answered first; how you go about
getting the armor is utterly irrelevant and will always smack of familiarity as it's
all been done before.
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sickel 

21 July 2010 - 08:41 AM
To answer your question, Pawns, equipment certainly isn't the only way to distinguish yourself, but it is a heavy factor that weighs into your value as a player. It all very much depends on your goals for the game, as well. Some people might be satisfied spending the rest of their FFXIV career fishing and making gil, just for the enjoyment of building up on their money. In that case, you probably don't care all too much about your gear, but moreso about your skill and ability to fish reliably.

If we can agree, though, that gear is at least one of a few important factors into your character, then it would seem that receiving new and better items or gear is a way of being rewarded.

I agree that crafting is usually implemented as some sort of "side task," and I think SE is truly trying to allow for players to have some sort of incentive to work on crafting/gathering. Whether they participate or not is really up to each player, but I have a feeling that those players who do keep up with it will reap benefits in the end.

The idea of needing to have certain pieces of gear for different events is debatable. For example, most people doing a promyvion quest would like the melee classes to have a piece of shade gear, as it really benefits the party overall, and it pretty affordable. Most parties would love for the melee to also have a speed belt and PCC, but this isn't always available.

I really hope they bring back augmentations and allow for players to customize their gear accordingly. This would help establish players who want to try out different stat builds.
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Pawns_ 

21 July 2010 - 07:11 PM
Hmm...

My overall point is in defense of the semi-casual players.
We can't invest at the same levels~
Gear acquisition is a powerful motivator but - as it stands - it's reserved for those who can commit.
I want to see more Game in the end-game.

As a side note on your idea about augmenting:
People would simply experiment their way into the same conclusions.
UO -- a PvP based MMO that doesn't have a Role / Cooperation heritage
has also become highly templated in it's later life. This is something you
cannot avoid over time.

"Whether they participate or not is really up to each player"
-- I disagree, people either invested or flunked out; or they bought Gil.

"equipment certainly isn't the only way to distinguish yourself"
-- I would like you provide examples of things on par with Equipment notoriety.

"The idea of needing to have certain pieces of gear for different events is debatable...promyvion quest... Most parties..."
-- This is out of context to my point, clearly there is a lot of gear discrimination in the end-game scene.
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sickel 

22 July 2010 - 12:35 AM

Pawns_, on 21 July 2010 - 09:11 PM, said:

Hmm...

My overall point is in defense of the semi-casual players.
We can't invest at the same levels~
Gear acquisition is a powerful motivator but - as it stands - it's reserved for those who can commit.
I want to see more Game in the end-game.



I'm also interested in the perspective of a semi-casual player, as are a huge number of the FFXIV fan base. People don't want to have to devote their lives to a single video game, and though I loved the FFXI experience, end game was little more than greed and drama over getting better gear.

By the same token, though, one cannot expect every player to be able to achieve all of the same levels of accomplishment. Someone who plays the game for five to six hours per day is much more deserving of a "relic" weapon than someone who only plays a few hours every week. I don't think this should mean that semi-casual players fall short in every respect to the hardcore. I think that it means players with less time to play, or perhaps, less interest in taking down the hardest foes, would have to manage their time more wisely to start getting the same level of gear.


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"Whether they participate or not is really up to each player"
-- I disagree, people either invested or flunked out; or they bought Gil.


I mentioned this in regards to FFXIV, more so than FFXI. There were plenty of ways to make an income other than crafting in FFXI, so I don't think that the only alternatives were flunking out or resorting to purchasing gil. People could simply have luck with BCNMs, NM hunting, selling dynamis currency, etc. Some required a linkshell's cooperation, some didn't. Hell, I made a fortune in the game at some points simply due to inflation.


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"equipment certainly isn't the only way to distinguish yourself"
-- I would like you provide examples of things on par with Equipment notoriety.


Well, your original statement was that equipment was the only way to distinguish yourself in FFXI, and to that, I disagreed. Like I said, upgrading equipment was, and should be, really, one of the main ways to empower your character. Hunting down that new belt or earring is a motivator that has existed in the RPG genre for ages, and something that can persist even after characters reach the "end game" where they have capped out their levels.

I think the most important detail in distinguishing oneself, however, is their skill and ability at their role. If we're referring to FFXI, how often did people want a paladin in an HNMLS who had full homam but couldn't keep hate reliably? You'd be suspicious and perhaps even wonder if they had bought their account. Most players earned a reputation during the leveling process - there were times when I'd get an invite from the same people several days in a row because I had built up the reputation of someone who knew how to perform their role. I played the game semi-casually, as well, but I took a lot of time to acquire what I felt were the most important pieces of gear to have. People bicker over parties wanting them to have sniper rings for level 40 as a melee. This isn't simply because they like to torture you to have the same gear as them, it's because the accuracy from those rings is a deal breaker in experience parties for melee who want to connect reliably. Like I said, gear is definitely an aspect of gameplay that plays a huge role in your success as a player. However, your ability to play your job correctly and to earn a strong reputation as a good player in this sense, along with your ability to offer different jobs and roles to a linkshell is definitely a factor in the end game scene.
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